North Korea tells China
October 9 2006 with 20 minutes warning
North Korea tells China it's about to
detonate its first nuclear device
China's leadership sends an emergency
alert to the White House the president
george w bush gets word that a north
korean test is imminent it was a glaring
defeat of efforts to control the spread
of nuclear weapons technology
we must act on every lead we will find
the middleman the suppliers and the
buyers our message to proliferators must
be consistent and it must be clear we
will find you and we're not going to
rest until you're stopped but the spread
of Technology had not been stopped and
it wasn't just North Korea Iran and
Libya - had mastered the ability to
enrich uranium a critical step for any
country that might want to manufacture
nuclear weapons how did that happen
in 2004 the United States announced that
intelligence services had established
the existence of a vast underground
network of suppliers of nuclear technology and skills it was they alleged led by this man
Abdul Qadeer Khan
Abdul Qadeer Khan also known as the father of Pakistani nuclear bomb overnight AQ Khan
became one of the most wanted men in the
world Pakistan's military regime led by
general pervez musharraf responded by
isolating aq father putting him under
house arrest and shielding him from the
outside world no one was allowed to talk
to her
neither the CIA nor the IAEA whose
chairman at the time Mohamed ElBaradei
described the Han Network it's
mind-boggling he said all I know is
there's at least more than 30 companies
in 30 countries all over the globe
involved in this fantastic sophisticated
illicit trafficking network with mr. AQ
Khan acting as CEO after working as a
nuclear scientist in Europe for several
years Hahn had returned to Pakistan to
build the nation's capabilities while
doing so he allegedly brought in extra
equipment and parts from suppliers
around the world these suppliers were
located in the Netherlands Germany Switzerland Turkey South Africa and
Malaysia he then sold the extra parts
and his know-how to clients in Libya
Iran and North Korea and he used banking
and shipment services in Dubai for the
transactions AQ Khan was forced to go on
national TV to confess the investigation
is established that many of the reported
activities did occur and there DS were
inevitably initiated that might be hist
but AQ Khan was careful not to confess
to all the allegations and my interviews
with the consult government officials I
was confronted with the evidence and the
findings and I have voluntarily admitted
that much of it is true and accurate my
dear brothers and sisters I have chosen
to appear before you to offer my deepest
regrets and unqualified apologies so
until this day many questions remain for
example when the Swiss government tried
to uncover who in that country had been
supplying a coupon a parliamentary
commission found that evidence had been
destroyed apparently after pressure from
the United States raising suspicions that America had things to hide and why
exactly did the Musharraf regime stop
him from talking to international
investigators did AQ Khan have evidence
implicating his own
Londyn his activities today irony is
bringing both a coupon and his former
boss Musharraf onto the public arena at
the same time Musharraf has returned to
re-establish himself politically in his
country but shortly after his return a
judge ordered him to be put under house
arrest and the prosecutor investigating
Musharraf stroll in the killing of
former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was
murdered
AQ Khan is also trying to establish a
political movement his party failed to
gain a single seat in parliament in the
most recent elections but he's hoping to
build on his fame to offer a program for
Pakistan's future but he is still hard
to reach despite Pakistan's highest
court declaring him in 2009 to be a free
citizen he is surrounded by security in
this neighborhood in Islamabad and he is still refusing to meet either IAEA or
foreign journalists to explain in more
detail his involvement in nuclear
proliferation now
AQ Khan talks to Al Jazeera
dr. optical Khan welcome to al-jazeera
yes please let's go back to the do to
the confession itself the convention
that you made that confession you said
it was forced upon you and you had to
you were forced to say those words on
national television I don't want to
discuss it because the court asked me
not to discuss this thing anymore
but so the court says that you cannot
discuss yes there is a court order that
I should not discuss don't matter
anymore the court declared me as a very
free citizen and and nothing to do with
anything I have not been accused of any
crime or anything and what the court has
asked me not to put any I mean not to
talk about this anymore
so just to make it clear did you or did
you not proliferate new client I don't
want to discuss I told you and that's why I don't meet the foreign journalists
you see that was the reason when I said
the court has said no so we don't want
to discuss it anymore I don't want to
violate the court orders but how can you
be a free man how can you aspire to be
leading the nation I am NOT inspiring to
lead the nation I am just asking some
people some good people to be in the
Parliament to point out the mistakes the
misdeeds the corruption and all the
thing I am NOT aspiring for any and if
you become the parameter of the
President or anything but there are lots
of other people doing that the same
thing all political parties say they
want to do exactly what you're saying
there they record in front of you have
you been doing for the last 60 or 65
years they are promising they never did
they never deliver so that's why I put
myself in the politics now and have
brought up some candidates so that we
could play some role but when you do
place yourself in politics the nation
remembered you as you were the hero of the nation in Pakistan you were lauded
by many you are still considered to be a
hero by by a lot of people is filled
there was them when they wrote the
confession now which which Abdul Qadeer
Khan is the real of the Qadir Khan you
know I was little I'm still a hero I
mean still adored I am still loved by
the whole nation nobody nobody believes
in anything what has happened or what
what was said about me nothing that has
nothing to do with that but we're not
talking about what people said about it
we are talking about your own word
structure of the code Iran's statements
when I in the aisle it always I told you
please the court has asked me not to
discuss it so don't try to push me okay
so let's talk about your your party's
position yes let's say your party comes
into a sizeable majority what does dr.
Abdul Qader you can't say about foreign
policy relations whether the country's
relations will relation should be good
peaceful relations with everybody not to
plate a stooge of any foreign power be independent
keep your sovereignty work hard for the
economic development industrialization
education health all those things which
will be the continues with the people
need and what would you say to relations
with Vasavi you know countries like like
China or Iran
we have good relations with them we are
neighbors so we must keep good relations
with them I am even for good relations
with India as long as some amicable
solution is found for Kashmir the
relations will be as good at between
Germany and France in Germany and and
America and Germany and England answer
ok so you yourself have been very close
to nuclear technology you yourself are a
viewer and you've been a commentator on
various technologies which other nations
are developing which is alarming a lot
of other countries and what would you
what would your opinion be about the
nuclear technology
nuclear technology and there's a lot
that we hear in the media about how
close Iran is building a bomb forget is just propaganda Western propaganda for
public consumption you know they were
making the same propaganda about Iraq
and the couldn't find a trace of it in
iota of truth was in it
and even Colin Powell had gone to the
United Nations and was showing the
pictures of chemical weapons
laboratories and descended and then he
apologized now you you take a country
and fast acquisitions you destroy the
whole country
you killed millions have people there
and then you say oh it was a files
information so this is the same thing
Iran is a part of NPT everybody must
know that Iran is a signatory to NPT I
EA EA can send any inspectors anytime
there to see anything visit any facility
so there is no question of Iran getting
anywhere near the nuclear weapons
production so this is as simple as as is
the daylight so this is just a
propaganda for public consumption and
and make propaganda what would you what
would you call the the so-called evidence which was found let's say in
Libya which sort of dates back Libya
getting close to developing nuclear are
accusing you we can there be part of it
they cannot they cannot make a bicycle
how could they make a nuclear bomb a
nuclear weapons so I again you can give
them credit for sending the men to the
moon does Libya was just close to
sending the men to the moon or maybe
sending the barrack missile to that is
to the United States like they are
saying about North Korea so it is all
Western propaganda and they sue them
very well and the public unfortunately
with not so well informed and the
majority of public I would say
illiterates doesn't mean literacy
doesn't mean that you can read the
newspaper you should also have the
common sense to understand what is going
on in the world so it is very easy for
them to to mislead them until their
public and get the support but the the
counter-argument to that would be
westerns Westerners who go out in meetings and say that the Iranians come
out and say that we will you know we
will conduct tests really there I never
said putting the words in their mouth
again
again imagine jihad rafsanjani
all have said we don't want to make
nuclear weapons we are not making clear
weapons we don't think it is necessary
for us to have nuclear weapons
again and again those instruments are
totally ignored and as I said if they
are NPT signatory how come how is it
possible for them to do anything without
IAEA and Alice as well have the
knowledge of the the inspectors but
North Korea has just conducted a third
nuclear test North Korea has been a very
close friend of Soviet Union and China
for the last 60 years and they have got
all their engineers and scientists
trained in in China and there and the
Soviet Union in this field as so no
doubt they are quite capable and they
can do it they can even build a ICBMs
whatever they want to and coming on to ICBMs was was going to be my next
question because whenever the North
Korean ICBM has come into question your
name also pops up that you helped them
acquire that technology you gave them
knowledge I if we could make ICBMs if I
had that knowledge and Pakistan would be
making would be the first to make ICBMs
instead of helping others and we would
be have been able to send that satellite
to the to the orbit which we have not
been able to so this is a lambic and
what about their missile technology it
is not release themselves say that it's
it's one of the most sophisticated
missile technologies in the world not
you see not a sophisticated the Western
countries have the American the British
are the the
how do you say French and then even the
Russians the mercuric root system not
not such a sophisticated system but
sometimes cool system also works is good
enough to frighten the other people so
what do you have
would you take any credit in giving them that the Ireland Pakistan did not have
any knowledge about missiles and
Pakistan has not given any information
to anybody about missiles we are we are
nervous in this field and what about
what about their weapons program they
threatened their neighbor and and even
powers in the region with that you see
if you if you push even a get into the
corner the cat reacts and then will
attack you
so they are bullying this country such a
small country for the last 60 years
threatening them by cutting putting
embargoes economic sanctions as all
those things so this is also a verbal
tit-for-tat from then from their side
they know very well you see they know
they would become charcoal vision within
five minutes if they do anything wrong
if they took any wrong step there won't
be any North Korea on the map of the
world within five ten minutes they know
it and they are not so stupid to do any
original thing
um let's come back to because you see
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